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Digital Corpus of Literary Papyri

2020-11-11T13:21:56Z

HughCayless: Updated into on DCLP

==Available==

* https://papyri.info; http://litpap.info/ (no longer updated)
** code base: https://github.com/DCLP (re-integrated into https://github.com/papyri)
** grant notification: http://gepris.dfg.de/gepris/projekt/236701214

==Directors==

* Roger Bagnall
* Rodney Ast

==Description==

The '''Digital Corpus of Literary Papyri''' (DCLP) is a joint project of the [http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/fakultaeten/philosophie/zaw/papy/index.html Institute for Papyrology at the University of Heidelberg] and of the [[Institute for the Study of the Ancient World]] at New York University. It is co-directed by Roger Bagnall and Rodney Ast with funding provided by paired grants from the US National Endowment for the Humanities and the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft.

DCLP built on the tools and achievements of the [[Integrating Digital Papyrology]] project and [[Papyri.info]] to establish a database of texts and cataloging data for the ancient papyrus manuscripts of Greek and Latin literature and texts of a quasi-literary nature. Other project partners include [[DVCTVS]], the [[Duke Collaboratory for Classics Computing]], the Institut für Klassische Philologie I, Gräzistik at the University of Würzburg, the [[Leuven Database of Ancient Books (LDAB)]], Centro Internazionale per lo Studio dei Papiri Ercolanesi, the [[Parma Digital Medical Library]] project, and [[Trismegistos]]. The collection of texts and functionality for browsing them was merged into Papyri.info in 2018 after completion of the DCLP project.

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[[category:papyrology]]
[[category:EpiDoc]]
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Free XML Editors

2019-07-23T11:30:17Z

HughCayless: /* Open source editors */

==Oxygen==

Most teachers of [[Text Encoding Initiative (TEI)|TEI]] and [[EpiDoc]] courses or workshops use the Syncrosoft [[Oxygen]] XML editor, on the grounds that:

*the developers [http://www.sync.ro/ Syncrosoft] are known to be responsive, especially to the DH community;
*it has a very good balance of functionality (XPath and XSLT transformation as well as predictive and customizable editing modes);
*it is very easy for students to learn to use, cross-platform, and the free 30-day trial is adequate for short workshops;
*the full academic license ($99) is very reasonable for this kind of tool;
*it is what many of us use in our day-to-day work, so teaching it is natural.

However, the tendency in the digital humanities toward the use of free and open source software, especially in teaching, leads to the need for a list of fully free and open alternatives to this popular XML editor. The below is the beginnings of such a list (installation and configuration notes will be added or linked where available).

==Open source editors==

* [[Atom (editor)]] - https://atom.io/ (hackable text editor; includes [https://atom.io/packages/linter-autocomplete-jing RelaxNG validation], [https://atom.io/packages/xml-tools XML] and [https://atom.io/packages/atom-xsltransform XSLT] plugins)
* [[Easymacs]] - https://github.com/pjheslin/easymacs (configuration by Peter Heslin)
* [[jEdit]] - http://www.jedit.org/ ([http://plugins.jedit.org/plugins/?XML XML] and [http://plugins.jedit.org/plugins/?XSLT XSLT] plugins available) (other [http://plugins.jedit.org/list.php?category=4 HTML/XML plugins])
* [[Subline Text 3]] - http://www.sublimetext.com/3 ([https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Exalt XML plugin] available)
* [[Vex]] = http://www.eclipse.org/vex/ (Visual Editor for XML from Eclipse)

==Other free editors==

* ...

[[category:tools]]
[[category:XML]]
[[category:Opensource]]
[[category:FAQ]]

URIs URNs and URLs: What's the difference?

2014-11-04T17:09:13Z

HughCayless:

'''What's a URI and how is one different from a URL?'''
The short answer is that it isn't necessarily. All URLs are URIs, but not all URIs are URLs. URI stands for "Uniform Resource Identifier", meaning a string (sequence) of characters that can uniquely identify anything on the internet. URL stands for 'Uniform Resource Locator', meaning a string of characters that indicate where something can be found.

In Linked Open Data, it is a best-practice to use a URL as the URI for any publicly available web-based resource that can be easily re-used by others. Meaning, the string 'http://opencontext.org/subjects/6A48C92B-E9DB-4CA0-1F9E-2F3ECEFC1C7C' is both the permanent identifier for that page describing a coin found at [http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/697725 Petra], and the location where that page can be found. OpenContext goes a long way to making this clear by offering a 'Suggested Citation' that includes the URI. In general, combining the roles of URI and URL, which requires a commitment to the permanence of URLs, enables many of the benefits of Linked Open Data. In this context, 'URI' is often the preferred term within Digital Humanities and Linked Open Data. This usually means that in casual conversation, you can replace with 'URL' with 'URI' whenever somebody is talking about permanent, high-quality web-based resources.

Linked Data sites will often use URIs to refer to things that can't be retrieved on the internet, such as actual people or places. For example, the Virtual International Authority File (VIAF) URI for the Roman emperor Claudius is 'http://viaf.org/viaf/87172361'. When it is dereferenced, a redirect is issued by the server to 'http://viaf.org/viaf/87172361/' (note the trailing slash), which is VIAF's page about Claudius. Pleiades, on the other hand, uses 'http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/697725#this' (note the '#this' on the end of the URI) to refer to Petra the place, as opposed to the Pleiades article about Petra. This distinction is important to keep in mind, because you don't want to conflate web pages with real people or places.

See also [[Very clean URIs]].

'''''What's a URN?'''''
URN stands for "Uniform Resource Name". All URNs are URIs. As the title implies, these provide a unique name for resources on the Internet, but unlike URLs they don't specify a way to retrieve them. To find the resource named by a URN, you have to use some sort of resolver service, such as [[Cts|CTS]], which uses URNs to refer to its resources.

[[category:FAQ]]
[[category:linked open data]]

Vocabularies for classicists

2013-04-17T15:19:03Z

HughCayless:

Classicists working on digital projects that involve data are encouraged to link their data to the [http://semanticweb.org/ semantic web]. If you are new to the topic, [[Linked open data|start here]] ([[Linked open data]]).

In thinking about new vocabularies, whether for subjects, predicates, or objects of triples, one should begin with a survey of what already exists. By using one another's vocabularies, we reinforce the interoperability, and therefore utility, of our data. And it saves the time of having to reinvent the wheel. Below are a selection of vocabularies that may be useful to classicists. A master list of datasets is maintained by [http://datahub.io/ ckan's Data Hub], and is an excellent place to look for obscure ontologies and controlled vocabularies. Datasets that are especially helpful for scholars of premodernity are here:

== General ==
* [http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/ RDF Vocabulary Description Language, also known as RDF Schema (RDFS)]
* [http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/ Web Ontology Language (OWL)]
* [http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/ Simple Knowledge Organization System (SKOS)]
* [http://dublincore.org/ Dublin Core]
* [http://www.foaf-project.org/ Friend of a Friend]
* [http://wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia]
* [http://dbpedia.org/ DBPedia]
* [https://github.com/hcayless/LAWD Cayless, ontology for Linked Ancient World Data] (Apr. 2013: preliminary notes for material that will eventually populate [http://lawd.info LAWD.info])
''See [http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Ontology a list of others here]. See [http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/ here for a visual map].''

== Bibliography and Texts ==
''It is helpful to understand something about the hierarchy of texts (such as the one adopted by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records] [FRBR]). Vocabularies describing ancient works in the abstract (under FRBR called works) will take a different approach than ones describing manuscripts, papyri, ostraca, etc. (under FRBR called items)''

* [http://purl.org/spar/cito/ Citation Ontology]
* [http://datahub.io/dataset/linkedlccn Linked LCCN]
* [http://lcweb.loc.gov/marc/ Marc Codes List]
* [http://www.openannotation.org Open Annotation]
* [http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/# W3C Provenance Ontology]
* [http://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Sharing_Ancient_Wisdoms_%28SAWS%29 SAWS Ontology for recording links within interrelated collections of texts]

Note, that although the following are not vocabularies per se, they are important for the creation of vocabularies or RDF triples that involve ancient texts:
* [http://cts3.sourceforge.net/ Canonical Text Services] (CTS)
* [http://sites.tufts.edu/perseusupdates/beta-features/perseus-cts-api/ Perseus] (uses CTS)

== Geography ==

* [http://geovocab.org/spatial# NeoGeo Spatial Ontology]
* [http://www.geonames.org/ Geonames]
* [http://linkedgeodata.org/About Linked GeoData]
* [http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/vocab# Pleiades Place/Location/Name Vocabulary]
* [http://pleiades.stoa.org/places Pleiades Places]

== Prosopography, persons ==
* [http://viaf.org/ VIAF]
* [http://isni.org/ ISNI]
* [http://www.lgpn.ox.ac.uk/ Lexicon of Greek Personal Names]

== Objects ==
* [http://nomisma.org/ Nomisma]
* [http://papyri.info Papyri.info]

== Topics ==
* [http://authorities.loc.gov/ Library of Congress Authorities]

For other examples of projects that use controlled vocabularies for linked open data, see the [[:category:linked open data|category listing]] as well as [[Very clean URIs]].

[[category:linked open data]] [[category:FAQ]] [[category:Citation in digital scholarship]]

Very clean URIs

2013-03-20T15:22:27Z

HughCayless: added EDH

This page collects URIs that have no "cruft", meaning no ".cgi",".php",".asp","?","&","=" and the like.

===American Numismatic Society===
http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.24110

===American School of Classical Studies at Athens, Digital Collections===
http://ascsa.net/id/agora/object/p%2034646

===Ancient World Digital Library===
http://dlib.nyu.edu/awdl/books/dieplastikderg00fech

===Aphrodisias in Late Antiquity===
http://insaph.kcl.ac.uk/ala2004/inscription/eAla007.html

===Arachne===
http://arachne.uni-koeln.de/item/bauwerk/2100006

===Attic Inscriptions Online===
http://www.atticinscriptions.com/inscription/IGII31/447/

===British Museum===
http://collection.britishmuseum.org/description/object/WCT133702

===Brooklyn Museum===
http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/objects/10044

===Cuneiform Digital Library Initiative===
http://cdli.ucla.edu/P102526

===Encyclopaedia Iranica===
http://iranica.com/articles/Persepolis

===Epigraphische Datenbank Heidelberg===
http://edh-www.adw.uni-heidelberg.de/edh/inschrift/HD000009

===Europeana===
http://europeana.eu/portal/record/00401/AEBFF976BD6601A16F6C785EC1DF355AE7C60127.html

===Geonames.org===
http://www.geonames.org/110836/persepolis.html

===Getty Museum Catalogues===
http://museumcatalogues.getty.edu/amber/objects/1/

===ISAW Papers===
http://dlib.nyu.edu/awdl/isaw/isaw-papers/1

===Jstor===
http://www.jstor.org/stable/148266

===Levantine Ceramics Project===
http://www.levantineceramics.org/wares/40

===Lexicon of Greek Personal Names===
http://www.lgpn.ox.ac.uk/name/Θουκυδίδης

===Library of Congress (Authorites and Vocabularies)===
* http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n50030000
* http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh85138100

===Library of Congress (Catalog)===
http://lccn.loc.gov/a55003923

===Museum of Fine Arts, Boston===
http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/16857

===Nomisma.org===
http://nomisma.org/id/athens

===Online Coins of the Roman Empire===
http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).aug.1a

===Open Context===
http://opencontext.org/subjects/73221A18-7A7C-44C4-36CD-0CECF8F7A725

===Papyri.info===
* http://papyri.info/ddbdp/p.cair.zen;4;59601
* http://papyri.info/trismegistos/1234

===Penn Museum===
http://www.penn.museum/collections/object/55054

===Perseus Digital Library===
http://data.perseus.org/people/smith:alexander-3

===Pleiades===
http://pleiades.stoa.org/places/550595

===Portable Antiquities Scheme, UK===
http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/412455

===Princeton University Art Museum===
http://artmuseum.princeton.edu/collections/objects/53083

===Trismegistos===
http://www.trismegistos.org/text/27080

===VIAF: Virtual International Authority File===
http://viaf.org/viaf/18013086

===The Walters Art Museum===
http://art.thewalters.org/detail/15596

===Wikipedia (English)===
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_red_slip

===Worldcat===
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/2970847

[[category:citation_in_digital_scholarship]]
[[category:linked open data]]

Electronic Archive of Greek and Latin Epigraphy

2011-06-21T18:12:23Z

HughCayless:

=== Availability ===

* http://www.eagle-eagle.it

=== Description ===

The EAGLE initiative -- an international federation of epigraphic databases -- is the brainchild of Professor Silvio Panciera (Rome), under the Patronage of AIEGL ([http://www2.bbaw.de/aiegl Association Internationale d'Epigraphie Grecque et Latine]). It's long-term goal is the digitization and unified search of all published insciptions in Greek and Latin.

EAGLE is formed of a federation of four major epigraphic projects: the [[Epigraphische Datenbank Heidelberg (EDH)]], the [[Epigraphic Database Roma (EDR)]], the [[Epigraphic Database Bari (EDB)]] and [[Hispania Epigraphica (HE)]], which currently take responsibility for various thematic and geographic subsets of the inscriptions. All of these databases conform to the minimum requirements of the EAGLE system, although EDH in particular has many more fields of metadata in addition.

[[category:Projects]]
[[category:Epigraphy]]

User:HughCayless

2010-01-27T03:28:23Z

HughCayless:

More about me at [http://philomousos.com philomousos.com]

User:HughCayless

2010-01-27T03:28:03Z

HughCayless:

More about me at [http://philomousos.com]

Greek Unicode duplicated vowels

2008-08-11T00:09:03Z

HughCayless: /* The Characters */

==The Problem==

The Greek basic Unicode range ([http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0370.pdf 0370-03FF]) originally enciding the characters required for modern Greek: the 24-letter alphabet, a couple of numerical symbols, and vowels with ''tonos'' and/or ''diaeresis'' (in addition to Coptic and a few other symbols). When the Greek extended range ([http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F00.pdf 1F00-1FFF]) was added to handle Polytonic Greek (for both Classical and ''katherevousa'' Greek), this basically involved the addition of accented vowels, plus breathing marks, subscript iotas, etc.

==The Characters==

For some reason, perhaps because of an oversight, or perhaps because the editors of this revision were thought that there was some essential difference between ''tonos'' and ''oxia'' (which there is not), 16 characters in the Greek basic set were duplicated in Greek extended:

{| border="1"
|-
! Unicode
! Beta Code
! Basic codepoint
! extended codepoint
|-
| ά
| A/
| 03AC
| 1F71
|-
| έ
| E/
| 03AD
| 1F73
|-
| ή
| H/
| 03AE
| 1F75
|-
| ί
| I/
| 03AF
| 1F77
|-
| ό
| O/
| 03CC
| 1F79
|-
| ύ
| U/
| 03CD
| 1F7B
|-
| ώ
| W/
| 03CE
| 1F7D
|-
| Ά
| */A
| 0386
| 1FBB
|-
| Έ
| */E
| 0388
| 1FC9
|-
| Ή
| */H
| 0389
| 1FCB
|-
| Ί
| */I
| 038A
| 1FDB
|-
| Ό
| */O
| 038C
| 1FF9
|-
| Ύ
| */U
| 038E
| 1FEB
|-
| Ώ
| */W
| 038F
| 1FFB
|-
| ΐ
| I/+
| 0390
| 1FD3
|-
| ΰ
| U/+
| 03B0
| 1FE3
|-
|}

There should be no difference between, for example, ά and ά (both alpha-oxia), so in most cases you don't need to worry about this. Your [[Greek Keyboards (Unicode)]] will make a decision and input one or the other; your [[Greek Fonts (Unicode)]] will display both identically; a search engine should be able to find both from either input (just as they should be able to strip diacritics altogether from a search term, if desired).

==Recommendations==

There have been problems with this (certain fonts in certain browsers don't get it right, for example). It seems (see discussion from [http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pinax/greekkeys/technicalDetails.html GreekKeys Unicode]) that the higher codepoint, in Extended Greek, has been deprecated. By preference all tools and input methods should use the Basic Greek vowel+tonos for these character combinations. Fonts and search tools should continue to support both for the sake of legacy data.

[[category:FAQ]]
[[category:Unicode]]

Digital Critical Editions of Texts in Greek and Latin

2007-03-05T17:26:53Z

HughCayless:

A working bibliography

=== Classical (Greek and Latin) ===

* [http://chs.harvard.edu/publications.sec/homer_and_the_papyri.ssp Homer and the Papyri] (editors: Casey Dué, Mary Ebbott, John Lundon, Dimitrios Yatromanolakis). A database of the textual variants found in a large number of homeric papyri
* [http://pom.bbaw.de/cmg/ Galenus' commentary on Hippocrates' "On the articulations"] (editor: Christian Brockmann). C. Brockmann has published this digital critical edition within the frame of the [http://cmg.bbaw.de/Startseite.html Corpus Medicorum Graecorum-Latinorum Project]
* [http://www.curculio.org/Claudian/index.html Claudian] (editor: Michael Hendry). Like the following edition of Propertius, this is not a real ''digital'' critical edition (based on a declarative markup language encoding the textual variants), but an HTML-based presentation of a traditional critical edition, with an essential critical apparatus
* [http://www.curculio.org/Propertius/index.html Propertius] (editor: Michael Hendry).

=== Biblical ===

* [http://www.uwo.ca/kings/ocp/ The Online Critical Pseudepigrapha project]. Electronic editions of the best critical texts of the Old Testament ''Pseudepigrapha'' and related literature. All texts are encoded in XML (not TEI-compliant). The following are ''critical'' editions (i.e. have an in-line apparatus criticus): [http://www.uwo.ca/kings/ocp/1Enoch.html Enoch] (editor: Ken Penner); [http://www.uwo.ca/kings/ocp/index-TAdam.html Testament of Adam] (editor: Ken Penner); [http://www.uwo.ca/kings/ocp/TJob.html The Testament of Job] (editors: Ian Scott, with Ken Penner and David Miller).
* [http://nestlealand.uni-muenster.de/ Digital Nestle-Aland Prototype] (Universitï¿½t Mï¿½nster). A real digital critical edition of the first and second Epistle of John, based on a complete digital transcription of 24 manuscripts. The [http://nttranscripts.uni-muenster.de/ New Testament Transcripts Prototype], cured by the same University, features a digital critical edition of the ''whole'' New Testament, but based on a number of manusripts variable from 2 to 26.

=== Medieval ===

* [http://elec.enc.sorbonne.fr/ Editions ï¿½lectroniques de l'Ecole des chartes] (Sorbonne)
* [http://www.britac.ac.uk/pubs/dialogus/ockdial.html William of Ockham: Dialogus] (British Academy)
* [http://homepage.mac.com/charleselie1/VSE/VSE/000VSE.html Vita Eufrosine]
* [http://www.uni-koeln.de/~ahz26/edition/index.htm Digitale Edition: MS83II der Dom und Dioezesanbibliothek Kï¿½ln]<nowiki>: Eine komputistische Sammelhandschrift von 798/805. (Universitï¿½t zu Kï¿½ln)</nowiki>

=== Neo-Latin ===

* [http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/Addison/ Addison's Latin works] (Dana F. Sutton)
* [http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/sylva/ Phineas Fletcherï¿½s Sylva Poetica (1633)] A hypertext critical edition by M. T. Anderson and Dana F. Sutton
* [http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/library.html Ither Neo-Latin texts from the Library of Humanistic Texts] (ed. by Dana F. Sutton et al.)
* [http://www.chlt.org/sandbox/colloquia/argenis/index.html Argenis Barclaii] (Stoa Consortium)
* [http://www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/crahm/revue/tabularia/bouet.html Carmen de fundatione, ruina et restauratione inclyti monasterii Gemmeticensis], Pierre BOUET (Universitï¿½ de Caen Basse ï¿½ Normandie)
* [http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Italian_Studies/pico/index.html Pico della Mirandola, de hominis dignitate] (Progetto Pico / Pico Project)
* [http://hlsl.law.harvard.edu/bracton/Framed/mframe.htm The Bracton Browser] (Harvard)
* [http://www.newtonproject.ic.ac.uk/prism.php?id=1 The Newton Project]
* [http://www.fondazionecanussio.org/patria.htm Niccolï¿½ Canussio, de restitutione patriae] (editor: O. Canussio). This is not a ''digital'' critical edition, but an HTML-based presentation of a traditional critical edition, with an introduction, an italian translation and fotographical reproductions of the most important manuscripts.

'''Links to other sitographies'''

A larger commented sitography (in Italian) on digital philology can be found in the 'E-Philology' section of the [http://www.digitalvariants.org/philology/philologyhome.htm Digital Variants] site (editor: Cinzia Pusceddu). Almost all the projects quoted here belong to medieval or modern philology. A comment on C. Pusceddu's sitography, with a focus on the Classics (in Italian, again) is [http://www.unipa.it/paolo.monella/cattolica/index.html#panorama here].

[[category:FAQ]]

Transcoder

2007-03-02T15:34:52Z

HughCayless:

=== Transcoder ===
By Hugh Cayless
=== Download ===

* [http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=60289&package_id=63363 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=60289&package_id=63363]

=== Description ===

Transcoder is a Java program that converts between many different encodings of Ancient Greek. Supported encodings include:
* Uniccode, both form C (precomposed) and D (combining diacriticals)
* Beta Code
* GreekKeys
* SGreek
* SPIonic
* Greek transliteration

Also included are a [http://cocoon.apache.org Cocoon] transformer to allow integration into the Cocoon web application framework, a GUI transformer, and a [http://jedit.org jEdit] plugin.

[[Category:Tools]]
[[Category:Unicode]]

Category:FAQ

2007-03-02T14:37:19Z

HughCayless:

Please add your questions here, or by posting them to the [http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/DIGITALCLASSICIST.html discussion group]. Answers to your questions will appear as and when users post them.

When an entry in this FAQ has grown to the status of an article or is stable and
definitive, it may be moved to a more static home.

=== Guides to Good Practice ===

Many guides to good practice can be found at the following sites:

* [http://www.stoa.org/guides/ Stoa Consortium]
* [http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Digital Medievalist]
* [http://www.chs.harvard.edu/publications.sec/classics.ssp/issue_2_workshop_on.pg/contents_1.pg Classics@ vol. 2 ("Cultural Informatics")]
* [http://ahds.ac.uk/creating/guides/index.htm Arts and Humanities Data Service]
* [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/kdcs/content/publications.htm King's Digital Consultancy Service]
* [http://www.unc.edu/awmc/topics.html Ancient World Mapping Centre]

(We should index significant guides from these sites, and others, some time, a beginning of this index can be found at the bottom of the [[Resources]] page...)

RSS or Atom

2007-03-02T14:35:40Z

HughCayless:

RSS (nowadays) stands for Really Simple Syndication. It is implemented by means of an XML file that can be read by an RSS reader application. RSS is typically used to provide links to updates on websites that change frequently (such as blogs). [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS Wikipedia] has a good entry on the rather tangled history of RSS. The specification is available at the [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28standard%29 Atom] is a competing specification which is championed by Google and is, unlike RSS, an official Internet Engineering Task Force standard, see the [http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287 RFC].

[[Category:Tools]]
[[Category:FAQ]]

RSS or Atom

2007-03-02T14:33:38Z

HughCayless: